Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 17

03/10/2008 03:00 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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+= HB 350 VEHICLE RENTAL TAX COLLECTION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 350(L&C) Out of Committee
+= HB 391 STATE CONSTRUCT'N PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT TELECONFERENCED
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HB 391-STATE CONSTRUCT'N PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENT                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:07:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON announced that the first order of business would be                                                                 
HOUSE  BILL   NO.  391,  "An   Act  relating  to   project  labor                                                               
agreements."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:07:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEREK MILLER,  Staff, to Representative Mike  Kelly, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  summarized Version  C of  HB 391  for members.   He                                                               
stated  that  proposed  Section   1  would  require  construction                                                               
contracts initiated  by the state would  also require contractors                                                               
that commit  to a project  labor agreement (PLA) must  include an                                                               
option for  employees to  sign a declaration  of benefits.   This                                                               
declaration would allow employees  the choice of depositing their                                                               
employer's  contribution to  the  fringe benefit  package to  the                                                               
union plan or  to the non union  plan.  Proposed Section  2 of HB
391 would  apply the declaration  of benefit language as  part of                                                               
the application requirements  set out in obtaining  an Alaska Gas                                                               
Inducement Act (AGIA) license.   Proposed Section 3 would provide                                                               
applicability standards for  PLAs after the effective  date of HB
391.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:09:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN  made  a  motion  to  adopt  Amendment  1,                                                               
labeled 25-LS1493\C.1, Wayne, 3/10/08, which read:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, following line 9:                                                                                                  
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
          "(c)  An employer or labor representative who                                                                         
     participates  in  or   administers  a  fringe  benefits                                                                    
     program that is available  for selection by an employee                                                                    
     under  (b)  of  this   section  shall  provide  to  the                                                                    
     employee a  written description of the  fringe benefits                                                                    
     program  within  seven  days after  a  request  by  the                                                                    
     employee."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Reletter the following subsection accordingly.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 28, following "agreement;":                                                                               
          Insert "an employer or labor representative who                                                                   
         administers a fringe benefits program that is                                                                      
     available  for  selection  by an  employee  under  this                                                                
     paragraph  shall provide  the employee  with a  written                                                                
     description  of  the  fringe  benefits  program  within                                                                
     seven days after a request by the employee;"                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:09:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO objected for  the purposes to read Amendment                                                               
1.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:10:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER offered  that Amendment 1 would add  a new subsection,                                                               
proposed AS 36.30.405  that would address concerns  raised in the                                                               
companion  bill  in the  other  body  about employees  making  an                                                               
informed  decision  prior  to  submitting  their  declaration  of                                                               
benefits to the employer.   Amendment 1 would require an employer                                                               
to provide  a written description  of the fringe  benefit package                                                               
at  the request  of the  employee to  ensure full  disclosure and                                                               
allow the employee to make an informed decision.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:11:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  inquired as to whether  the employee would                                                               
be able to compare both fringe benefit plans.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLER answered  that is  the effect  of Amendment  1, which                                                               
would include  requirements for vesting  and enable  the employee                                                               
to review the benefits package side  by side within 7 days of the                                                               
request for information.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:11:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER,  inquired as  to  when  the employee  is                                                               
required to select the fringe benefit plan.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER  responded that the  employee would receive  copies of                                                               
the fringe benefit  plans prior to any contribution.   In further                                                               
response to Representative Gardner,  Mr. Miller acknowledged that                                                               
the  employee  would have  an  opportunity  to view  both  fringe                                                               
benefit plans prior to selecting a plan.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:12:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BUCH  noted that  he would like  to put  on record                                                               
his gratitude  for the  opportunity to  weigh in on  HB 391.   He                                                               
asked  for  clarification of  the  fringe  benefit process.    He                                                               
related  his understanding  that the  employer offers  the fringe                                                               
benefit  plan that  generally consists  of  a health  plan and  a                                                               
defined contribution  plan.  Since  the employer holds  the plan,                                                               
the  employer  has  the  option  to develop  the  plan,  not  the                                                               
employee especially if  the employee is not part  of a collective                                                               
bargaining agreement.  In those  instances, the employee would be                                                               
considered an "at will" employee and  would not have an option to                                                               
develop his/her own plan.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLER  related his  understanding  that  when a  contractor                                                               
enters into  a PLA that  the declaration of benefits  would allow                                                               
the employee to  select either the benefit package  under the PLA                                                               
or their current employer.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:15:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH offered  that in  a project  labor agreement                                                               
the  parties would  be the  State of  Alaska and  the contractors                                                               
such  as  TransCanada  PipeLine,  LTD.   He  suggested  that  the                                                               
employees  would  be working  for  subcontractors  who would  not                                                               
"even be sitting  at the table".  The negotiation  takes place at                                                               
the  onset of  any  construction so  none  of the  subcontractors                                                               
would be working for contractors at that point, he opined.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLER professed  that he  is not  an expert  and could  not                                                               
answer questions about  the project labor agreement  process.  He                                                               
related  that  many  subcontractors  who  bid  on  projects  that                                                               
require a PLA are non-competitive  bids due to the requirement to                                                               
contribute  to the  PLA plan,  as  well as  their own  retirement                                                               
fringe benefit plan.  He offered  to respond at a later time with                                                               
more information.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GATTO  pointed  out that  proposed  AS  36.30.405                                                               
states,  "to the  extent permitted  by law"  whereas Amendment  1                                                               
refers to "an employer or  labor representative who administers a                                                               
fringe benefits  program..."  He  opined that Amendment  1 refers                                                               
to the  person who administers  the fringe benefit.   He inquired                                                               
whether  in a  PLA do  all employees  fall under  the PLA  or can                                                               
employees be treated differently.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BUCH opined  that all  workers who  work under  a                                                               
[PLA] agreement are subject to that agreement.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO inquired as to  whether a welder working for                                                               
a  subcontractor  under a  PLA  would  be  entitled to  the  same                                                               
benefit package as all other employees who work under the PLA.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX related her  understanding that the purpose                                                               
of  HB 391  is to  assist the  non union  contractors who  cannot                                                               
competitively bid due  to the benefits they are  required to give                                                               
under  the project  labor agreement.   She  opined that  the only                                                               
time  the employee  would  make  a decision  would  be after  the                                                               
employer  was awarded  the contract  such that  the subcontractor                                                               
would have prevailed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER clarified that some  non union companies must not only                                                               
contribute to  their own plans,  but must also contribute  to the                                                               
union trust.   Thus, the  company contributes  to two plans.   He                                                               
surmised that  there are  two separate issues  and he  offered to                                                               
garner more information for the committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:22:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NEUMAN offered  that Amendment  1 states  that an                                                               
employee  of a  subcontractor  has the  choice  to select  fringe                                                               
benefit plans  on previously negotiated agreements.   Contractors                                                               
would  already have  determined  their fringe  benefit plans,  he                                                               
noted.   Amendment 1  would allow  employees to  compare benefits                                                               
between union and non union fringe benefit packages.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MILLER  agreed  with  Representative  Neuman's  analysis  of                                                               
Amendment 1.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:24:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER   inquired  as  to  whether   HB  391  is                                                               
supported by unions  since she was absent at  the initial hearing                                                               
on HB 391.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON answered that the  lobbyist for the AFL-CIO testified                                                               
that that it did not oppose HB 391.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MILLER, in response to  Representative Gardner, answered that                                                               
written benefits  would include  not only  the benefits  but also                                                               
timelines and cost to the employee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:25:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON,  after first  determining  no  one else  wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on HB 391.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[HB 391 was held over.  Amendment 1 was left pending]                                                                           

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